Welp. It finally happened. All my sadness poured out in an interview. The pain from the past few months bubbled over in this sweet conversation with Ellie Holcomb. And we shared testimony of all the joy and peace God supplies in the hardest of circumstances.

We laugh-cried. A lot.

You see, listening to Ellie’s album, “Red Sea Road” felt like reading her diary. She “went first” opening up about all the hard things, but claiming God’s faithfulness and nearness through it all. So I felt comfortable being vulnerable myself. . . yet forgetting y’all would be listening.

But maybe after hearing our conversation, you’ll gain confidence to share your own grounded joy with a friend. And you can laugh-cry together, giving God glory even in your Red Sea moments.

AND you’ll hear how Ellie’s family handles the whole work/life balance thing. Applying some awesome advice she’s gain from some wise women.

“We get to obey and follow Jesus together as a family. I want to be where God wants me to be.”

What we chat about:

  • Why Ellie started memorizing Scripture and writing songs
  • What sitting in God’s Word looks like for Ellie (mom to 2 little ones).
  • How the “Red Sea Road” album was written while Ellie was walking through the desert.
  • Watching her parents run into the darkness with arms raised in praise.
  • The story of the day she recorded “Find You Here”.
  • The amazing advice Ellie got about juggling home/work life.
  • Rhythms of sabbath and yearly “state of the union” getaways.
  • Ellie shares what dreams she had to lay down.

Connect with Ellie Holcomb:


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How to listen to the podcast:

1.Listen on the blog. Click through to GodCenteredMom.com and click the play button at the beginning of this post.

2. Listen on your smartphone, iPad or iPod Touch – There are a lot of great podcasting apps. Apple has a free one (that I mentioned) in the app store, there is also one called Downcast. It allows you to search for shows, subscribe to them and even speed up the audio. If you don’t have an iDevice, you can listen via Stitcher.

3. Subscribe to the Podcast – access the podcast in iTunes (Click here to access via iTunes). You can also search for it on your smartphone app (like the ones listed above) and subscribe.


  1. Jennifer Roscoe

    Hi Heather! LOVE your podcast! I’m not sure what’s going on with either the episode 158 or my phone, but when I try to play ep. 158 the interview with Ellie Holcomb, I hear a repeat of ep. 157. I tried both on the podcast app and in your website.

    I hope everything gets sorted out! Can’t wait to hear your interview with Ellie 🙂 Thanks for what an amazing ministry you do for us moms in Christ!

    • Heather MacFadyen

      Thanks Jennifer!!!! Appreciate you!!! Just fixed it! May not be on iTunes yet. But you can listen from the site on your internet browser.

      • Jennifer Roscoe

        Awesome! It’s always such an encouragement to listen to your podcasts every week. I pray you are blessed as you serve in this way!

  2. Amanda Redman

    I was coming to say the same thing about the podcast episodes. Looks like Ep. 158 is playing Ep. 157. I can’t wait to also hear the interview with Ellie Holcomb!

    • Heather MacFadyen

      Just fixed it! May not be on iTunes yet. But you can listen from the site on your internet browser.

  3. e4hand

    Hi Heather! Thanks for all you do; you are amazing. I went to listen to this episode and it’s a repeat of episode 157. Can’t wait to hear 158!

    • Heather MacFadyen

      Just fixed it! May not be on iTunes yet. But you can listen from the site on your internet browser.

  4. Stephanie

    I’m having the same issue. Episode 158 plays audio for episode 157. I love your podcast and can’t wait to hear your newest episode!

    • Heather MacFadyen

      Just fixed it! May not be on iTunes yet. But you can listen from the site on your internet browser.

  5. Stacey Morgan

    Me too on the last episode.

    • Heather MacFadyen

      Just fixed it! May not be on iTunes yet. But you can listen from the site on your internet browser.

  6. Rachelle

    I just wanted to comment on this podcast and let you know it was a very encouraging one. I, too, have experienced the indescribable peace and nearness to God during a very dark, sad time. It’s amazing how I was able to feel peace during it all. I was actually sad after everything because I wasn’t feeling as close to him anymore. But, I must say, during the dark time, He made it so very clear to me that He was there and in control. I really felt the love of God and He was definitely wrapping me in His arms. Thank you also for reminding me that God is in control of our children and even if we mess up and don’t do it right, He ultimately will take care of them. I really enjoy your podcasts! This one left me in tears for sure.

  7. Andrea

    Gosh everything Ellie has been on has just spoken praise hand emojis To me. She is soo encouraging and so are you Heather. Thank you for doing what you do.

  8. Samantha

    I’ve loved your podcast for a long time, but this was one of my favorites so far. Unfortunately I didn’t heed your warning about having kleenex handy, resulting in my sobbing away as I was huffing and puffing up a hill on a long walk with my dog. So many good words from both you and Ellie. I once heard someone say that God never wastes pain, and if I may be so bold, I see God using the pain you’ve suffered this past year to make you more vulnerable as you share your podcast. The result is that your words are deeper than ever and a profound blessing to those of us listening. Thank you.

  9. Kristen Hatton

    Heather, it is so weird – not weird, God’s providence – but it seems every time I finally get time to catch up on listening to your podcast it is the exact one I needed to hear on the exact day; just what happened with this one with Ellie Holcomb. I listened yesterday and now for the first time listening to her album in tears. Some of these lyrics I feel like were written specifically for my daughter, and go hand in hand with what I want teen girls to meditate on and believe. So much truth. Thank you for continuing to bring gospel centering conversations to life. And thank you too for sharing your own heart. I so appreciate what you do.
    Joy, Kristen

  10. Anna

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for this open, honest, and wonderful interview. Is a transcript available anywhere?

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